50 Ways - Weckl mp3

[Rhythmatist]

I have an old VHS I taped of the Central Park concert with Gadd. Paul's guitar playing sounds awful;WAAAAY out of tune and not very in time. Truthfully, I don't think I've ever heard him play well any time I've heard him live.

Yeah, it does suck to have someone try to push or pull a tempo on you, especially when it's obvious to an audience. I once worked this out with a singer I worked with. I convinced him how amateurish it appeared to turn around and make embarassing gestures if he felt the tempo wasn't right. So we worked out some hand signals and I would adjust the tempo up or down a few clicks slowly over the course of several measures so there wouldn't be an abrupt change. He got his comfort zone and I didn't look like a schmuck to the common folk. Funniest thing about it; nobody in the band ever knew either (I asked if anyone felt the time get away and everyone said they didn't feel it drift).

[royerin]

Thanks Dazzler! I think he sounds great apart from the over-use of the syntoms.

[Randy walker]

Weckl was coming up the ranks in NY, working with Bill Conners, produced by Steve Khan and giggin with Jackson.

[likedachuch]

i felt that weckl did an admirable job. thanks dazzler! [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

[FuseU1]

THX 4 that, Dazz.

I remember learning the transcription to 50 out of Rick Latham's old Funk Studies book. Then, I actually was given a copy of the S&G Live Central Pk vid...& noticed the Gadd LF/HH stroke in the midst of the now-classic groove [Rick had it incorrectly notated as a LH stroke, I believe]. The band i was in ATT shared the stage w Edgar Winter Group a couple of yrs ago, who had Rick on drums [right b4 Vai's Chris Frazier landed the EW chair], & I remarked to RL about how I learned from his book way back in the day...Rick must've bummed briefly about his transc... ;c)

That band i ref'd to [that i was in then] had a gtrst who would STOMP his foot on the stage & grimace if he thought the tempo wasn't to his liking ATmoment...then I took a tape of us to him to listen, & he was sorry, as the tunes sounded "top-heavy" & rushed. That'll learn 'em. Fixed 'is wagon. He settled down & decided to leave it to me & not fight me live, & then he ended up remarking that the music grooved harder, & felt & sounded better than it had in the 3 yrs prior. [img]eek.gif[/img]

Shame, as it was his just b4 his last 2 wks with the band b4 he split & moved on. [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thinking.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img] Doh.

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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 04, 2005 06:13 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>

[LDGuy]

I really like early Weckl. He played on a Michel Camilo record called On Fire. I used to own this, but stupidly lost it when i took it to a public library to listen to on one of the computers - i suppose that just shows how addictive his playing was. I reckon he must have been about 29 when he did it, just before he did Masterplan. Some immaculate playing on it...

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